Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus, 2003
By: Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Type Edited Book
Language English
Date 2003
Publication Place University of London
Publisher Institute of Classical Studies
Series Bulletin of the Institute of Classical Studies
Volume 46, Supplement 78
Categories no categories
Author(s)
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
Twelve academic essays, given during the Institute of Classical Studies research seminar in 2000 and 2001, examine Plato's vision of the `real world' as he presented it in Timaeus while considering the text's influence on classical philosophers and scientists. Specific subjects include astronomy, the reactions of Aristotle and others to Timaeus , Hellenistic musicology, Proclus' Commentary , comparisons with Aristotle's Physics , mythology.

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Eudoxus, Callipus and the Astronomy of the Timaeus, 2003
By: Gregory, Andrew, Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Eudoxus, Callipus and the Astronomy of the Timaeus
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2003
Published in Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Pages 5-28
Categories no categories
Author(s) Gregory, Andrew
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
Whether the astronomy of the Timaeus had any significant influence on Eudoxus’ theory of homocentric spheres is a matter of contention. Some commentators deny any such influence. Here I argue for a view of the Timaeus’ astronomy, and of Eudoxus’ astronomy, whereby Eudoxus’ work was as much a natural development of the Timaeus as Callippus’ work was of Eudoxus. I also argue for an important interpretative principle. This is that Plato, Eudoxus and Callippus could not account for all the phenomena they were aware of, and were aware of that fact. If the Timaeus presents a prototype, Eudoxus can then be seen to develop this astronomy, making the model more sophisticated and complex while staying within the cosmological principles, and attempting to solve the key problems which were left unsolved by the Timaeus model. He does this in much the same way as Callippus made Eudoxus’ model more complex and sophisticated, and attempted to solve the leading problems in that model. I also consider some further objections to a significant interaction between Plato and Eudoxus, based on supposed philosophical differences, dating, and the evidence of later commentators. I conclude that these provide no significant obstacle to considering there to be a fruitful liaison between Plato and Eudoxus. [introduction, p. 5]

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Early Reactions to Plato’s Timaeus: polemic and exegesis in Theophrastus and Epicurus, 2003
By: Baltussen, Han, Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Early Reactions to Plato’s Timaeus: polemic and exegesis in Theophrastus and Epicurus
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2003
Published in Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Pages 49-71
Categories no categories
Author(s) Baltussen, Han
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
We are reasonably well informed about what might justly be thought of as the commentary tradition of the late Hellenistic and late antique period. In this series of papers on the theme ‘Plato’s Timaeus and the Commentary Tradition’ an obvious choice of topic has been to discuss the works of authors who explicitly declare to be commenting upon or clarifying the text o f an author. Most papers in this volume have therefore justly seen it as their task to clarify the interaction between one commentator and the Timaeus. My perspective is slightly different. Commentary as we usually see it must have had its precursors in some form or other. As it happens, we have some evidence related to the Timaeus which makes this a reasonable assumption. I therefore want to look at two thinkers whose interpretative efforts occur at the beginnings of the ‘commentary tradition’ . Here things are less clear and well-defined in that at this end o f the scale we are dealing with the emergence o f exegesis. This means that certain fundamental assumptions - eg. what a commentary or a commentator is - would no longer have an obvious value as starting points and that important questions about the interaction between authors and texts (such as ‘what is a commentary?’, ‘what form did the interpretation of texts take?’ or ‘when do commentaries emerge?’) require a fresh look. [p. 49]

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Aristotle and some of his Commentators on the Timaeus’ Receptacle, 2003
By: Gregory, Andrew, Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Aristotle and some of his Commentators on the Timaeus’ Receptacle
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2003
Published in Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Pages 29-47
Categories no categories
Author(s) Gregory, Andrew
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
The nature of the receptacle, presented at Timaeus 48e-53b, is controversial. It is unclear whether the receptacle is supposed to be matter, or whether it is supposed to be space, or whether it is in some way both matter and space. Plato seems to intend some reform of the way in which we refer to the phenomena, but the nature of that reform is far from clear.1 Can the evidence of Aristotle help us here? Aristotle and some of his commentators have some interesting and significant things to say about the receptacle and its contents, more perhaps than is generally recognised. [introduction, p. 29]

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Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus, 2003
By: Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Type Edited Book
Language English
Date 2003
Publication Place University of London
Publisher Institute of Classical Studies
Series Bulletin of the Institute of Classical Studies
Volume 46, Supplement 78
Categories no categories
Author(s)
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
Twelve academic essays, given during the Institute of Classical Studies research seminar in 2000 and 2001, examine Plato's vision of the `real world' as he presented it in Timaeus while considering the text's influence on classical philosophers and scientists. Specific subjects include astronomy, the reactions of Aristotle and others to Timaeus , Hellenistic musicology, Proclus' Commentary , comparisons with Aristotle's Physics , mythology.

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Aristotle and some of his Commentators on the Timaeus’ Receptacle, 2003
By: Gregory, Andrew, Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Aristotle and some of his Commentators on the Timaeus’ Receptacle
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2003
Published in Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Pages 29-47
Categories no categories
Author(s) Gregory, Andrew
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
The  nature of the receptacle,  presented at Timaeus 48e-53b, is controversial. It is unclear whether the  receptacle is supposed to be matter, or whether it is supposed to be space, or whether it is in some way both matter and space. Plato seems to intend some reform of the way in which we refer to the phenomena, but the nature of that reform is far from clear.1 Can 
the evidence of Aristotle help us here? Aristotle and some of his commentators have some interesting and significant things to say about the receptacle and its contents, more perhaps than is generally recognised. [introduction, p. 29]

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Early Reactions to Plato’s Timaeus: polemic and exegesis in Theophrastus and Epicurus, 2003
By: Baltussen, Han, Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Early Reactions to Plato’s Timaeus: polemic and exegesis in Theophrastus and Epicurus
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2003
Published in Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Pages 49-71
Categories no categories
Author(s) Baltussen, Han
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
We are reasonably well informed about what might justly be thought of as the commentary 
tradition of the late Hellenistic and late antique period. In this series of papers on the theme 
‘Plato’s  Timaeus and  the  Commentary Tradition’  an  obvious choice  of topic has  been  to 
discuss the works of authors who explicitly declare to be commenting upon or clarifying the 
text  o f an  author.  Most papers  in  this  volume have  therefore justly seen  it as their task to 
clarify the interaction between one commentator and the Timaeus.
My perspective is slightly different.  Commentary as  we  usually see it must have  had  its 
precursors  in  some  form  or  other.  As  it  happens,  we  have  some  evidence  related  to  the 
Timaeus which makes this a reasonable assumption. I therefore want to look at two thinkers 
whose  interpretative  efforts  occur  at  the  beginnings  of the  ‘commentary tradition’ .  Here 
things are less clear and well-defined in that at this end o f the scale we are dealing with the 
emergence  o f exegesis.  This  means  that  certain  fundamental  assumptions  -   eg.  what  a 
commentary or a commentator is -  would no longer have an obvious value as starting points 
and that important questions about the interaction between authors and texts (such as  ‘what 
is  a  commentary?’,  ‘what  form  did  the  interpretation  of  texts  take?’  or  ‘when  do 
commentaries emerge?’) require a fresh look. [p. 49]

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Eudoxus, Callipus and the Astronomy of the Timaeus, 2003
By: Gregory, Andrew, Sharples, Robert W. (Ed.), Sheppard, Anne D. (Ed.)
Title Eudoxus, Callipus and the Astronomy of the Timaeus
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2003
Published in Ancient Approaches to Plato's Timaeus
Pages 5-28
Categories no categories
Author(s) Gregory, Andrew
Editor(s) Sharples, Robert W. , Sheppard, Anne D.
Translator(s)
Whether the astronomy of the Timaeus had any significant influence on Eudoxus’ theory of homocentric spheres is a matter of contention. Some commentators deny any such influence. Here I argue for a view of the Timaeus’ astronomy, and of Eudoxus’ astronomy, whereby Eudoxus’ work was as much a natural development of the Timaeus as Callippus’ work was of Eudoxus. I also argue for an important interpretative principle. This is that Plato, Eudoxus and Callippus could not account for all the phenomena they were aware of, and were aware of that fact. If the Timaeus presents a prototype, Eudoxus can then be seen to develop this astronomy,  making the model  more sophisticated and complex while staying within the cosmological principles, and attempting to solve the key problems which were left unsolved by the Timaeus model. He does this in much the same way as Callippus made Eudoxus’ model more complex and sophisticated, and attempted to solve the leading problems in that model. I also consider some further objections to a significant interaction between Plato and Eudoxus, based on supposed philosophical differences, dating, and the evidence of later commentators. I conclude that these provide no significant obstacle to considering there to be a fruitful liaison between Plato and Eudoxus. [introduction, p. 5]

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